I met Rick Ungar when I was a regular panelist on The Daily Wrap, a show he co-hosted on the Newsmax channel. He is a liberal voice on a channel that’s been known to lean towards the conservative viewpoint, and he always held his own. That’s due, in large part, to the breadth of knowledge behind his opinions. He’s the co-host of Steele & Ungar, on Sirius XM POTUS, where he and Michael Steele dive deep on the political issues of the day. He’s also a Senior Politics and Healthcare Policy Contributor for Forbes Inc.

I sought Rick out to discuss the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (otherwise known as Obamacare) because he’s been dialed into this topic for years. He didn’t disappoint. He has a number of interesting ideas for the future of Obamacare, including testing a lowering of the age of eligibility for Medicare.

We sat down for this discussion in early October. Since then, we’ve seen reports of 8 states where Obamacare rates are rising by at least 30%. We’ve also seen what’s happened in places like Arizona, where nearly every county in the state now has only one insurer selling plans through the exchange. There’s clearly a problem, and I’m not sure anyone has the solution. Rick has some suggestions, and some provocative questions as well. Do you consider healthcare a privilege or a right? Is this a political question, or something much more basic?

The Presidential election is next week, and I’m eager for this campaign season to be over. I’m hopeful that we can get to the business of working together to maximize our potential as a country and as neighbors–so we can all shine brighter. But the questions Rick raises in this interview aren’t going away. Healthcare will remain a challenge for our country, and our neighbors, long after the campaign signs are gone.

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